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Electronica Musicians vs. Traditional Musicians
Oct 13 2009, 11:35 AM EDT
The trend today is to replace many musical instruments with virtual instruments--instruments that exist only in software. This trend has resulted in a new branch of the music industry called electronica--music designed from the ground up with digital technology.Explain your opinion regarding the musical talent and skill sets of electronica musicians versus traditional musicians. Do you find this valuable?
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1. RE: Electronica Musicians vs. Traditional Musicians
Oct 16 2009, 4:33 PM EDT
Traditional musicians and electronica musicians both work equally hard to make their music. The difference is what kind of skills are needed to work each type of production. Traditional musicians have to hold an instrument and learn how to play different notes on their instruments. They have to learn the "inner workings" of how to use the instrument. Electronica musicians have programs to work with. They also have to learn the "inner workings" of their instrument, which is the programs. The skills are only slightly different but the basic concepts are the same, one has to tune and the other has to adjust their settings. Electronica musicians are just musicians using their own instruments, the computers.
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2. RE: Electronica Musicians vs. Traditional Musicians
Oct 17 2009, 8:54 PM EDT
I believe that electronica musicians and traditional musicians both have equal amounts of musical talent and skill. Electronica musicians may use virtual instruments, but they still have to manipulate these instruments to sound good musically, just as traditional musicians have to learn to properly use real instruments in order to make the right sounds. Anyone is allowed to compose a song or create music in any form, but how good the music turns out depends on that person's skill in manipulating the instrument, whether it be an actual musical instrument or a computer with virtual instruments. Just because the instuments are virtual does not mean that creating music with them is any easier or requires any less talent than creating music with a real instrument. This is why I believe electronica musicians and traditional musicians have equal amounts of musical talent and skill.
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3. RE: Electronica Musicians vs. Traditional Musicians
Oct 17 2009, 10:47 PM EDT
I think that traditional musicians have more musical talent and skill sets than electronica musicians do. Coming from a violinist's perspective, traditional musicians have to learn notes, chords, minors, scales, and majors and we have to rehearse a lot to perfect our sound. It takes a lot of muscle memory to hit the right notes at the right time. We have to hold our instruments in a proper way and play at a certain technique. On the other hand, electronica musicians just sit in front of the computer and adjust the music and manipulate sounds without any structure. Electronica musicians really don't have to rehearse anything to make their timing perfect. They just combine multiple beats and have the song down. Even though electronica musicians have programs to work with that may be difficult, they don't have the true asset of a legitimate musician. I understand why the trend today is to replace musical instruments with virtual instruments. This occurs because as the technology inventions are exponentially increasing, the electronica music sounds more futuristic and modern.
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cferg808 |
4. RE: Electronica Musicians vs. Traditional Musicians
Oct 18 2009, 12:21 AM EDT
I think both traditional and electronica musicians have a tremendous wealth of talent. At the same time i believe both posses skills that are quite different. It takes musical talent to manipulate electronic intruments much like it does with traditional instruments. No matter how advanced software is a person cannot create music without natural ability to synthesize arrangements and combinations. When an electronica musician has a melody in their head they must still have the skill to play a digital guitar or manipulate digital drums. But, one must realize that many of electronica musicians are first and foremost traditional musicians. With this knowledge one cannot deny their talent or skill sets. They are BOTH traditional and electronica musicians. On the other hand, just because an electronica musician is without prior education and development with a traditional instrument, their skills are not invalidated. Their skills are just not the same. I believe the problem does not lie in whether or not the musicians posses equal skill sets, the problem is the quality of the "music" produced. But since that is an entirely different discussion, i will leave my opinion at declaring both electronic and traditional musicians are both largely talented. But because of personal bias, i cannot call the two EQUALLY talented.
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5. RE: Electronica Musicians vs. Traditional Musicians
Oct 18 2009, 3:37 AM EDT
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To be an electronica musician or traditional musician it requires a great deal of musical talent. An electronica musician must be able to understand software for manipulation, while a traditional musician has to master the instrument before creating music. The base of each musician must be the understanding of music, from there they each use their skill to create a music piece. Due to the fact that electronica musicians may not be able to create a piece exactly like a traditional musician and vice versa, I believe both musicians are equally talented. While traditional musicians use an original instrument, electronica musicians have the benefit of a more convenient music production with less time wasted for gathering multiple musicians into a studio. When a musician has an inspiration outside the studio, it is beneficial to have a software at hand. For times when the instrument is out of tune or also not available. However, because the electronica's lack in a variety of pitch many songs will begin to sound the same. As the traditional and electronia musicians are compared, their required skill is very different therefore making them equally talented.
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6. RE: Electronica Musicians vs. Traditional Musicians
Oct 18 2009, 3:54 PM EDT
Electronica musicians and traditional musicians both require a lot of skill. Electronica musicians use software and virtual instruments to digitally generate music. Traditional musicians use actual instruments to create music. Electronica musicians must know how to use and master software to produce music. Traditional musicians must master an instrument which includes having the pitch and notes exactly right which takes more musical talent than electronica musicians. I think that making music using actual instruments like traditional musicians do is a little easier then making music with electronica because electronica musicians have to make their music from the ground up only using software and make it sound good too. Traditional musicians already have the music made for them, their job is just to make it sound good. Traditional musicians have greater musical skill than electronica musicians since they have to know how to play the instrument but electronic musicians have a greater skill at manipulating software. In my opinion electronica sounds better than music with a real instrument because with software they can edit the music and make it sound as good as they want. Traditional musicians can only make their music sound as good as they can play. To me electronica musicians have a harder job but their music sounds better and traditional musicians have an easier job but their music does not sound as good. Do you find this valuable? |
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7. RE: Electronica Musicians vs. Traditional Musicians
Oct 18 2009, 4:36 PM EDT
Electronica musicians and traditional musicians are somewhat both equally skilled in the makings of their music. Electronica musicians are skilled in their use of digital technology. Using a type of software that is not common takes a great amount of skill and talent. They have to know how to mix songs and change beats carefully using this software. It can be difficult to most and thus requires talent and skill. Traditional musicians are no different than electronica musicians, however they have the benefit of the tangible feel of their instrument. They must master a foreign object, while on the other hand electronica musicians have a program to follow. If a bad situation were to happen with that instrument, a traditional musician would have the expertise to know what to do. Because of this, the skill level of a traditional musician is greater than that of an electronica musician.
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8. RE: Electronica Musicians vs. Traditional Musicians
Oct 18 2009, 6:29 PM EDT
Traditional musicians and Electronica musicians both need a knowledge of music, but their fields require different skills. Electronica musicians need a knowledge of software, while traditional musicians needs a knowledge of how to manipulate their particular instrument. However, in my opinion, traditional musicians have much more musical talent. It takes a lot of time and energy to master an instrument, and it takes consistency to be able to duplicate a particular sound. Electronica, on the other hand, is already programmed to sound a certain way, and although it takes skill to work with the software and create an interesting array of sounds, it doesn't take the same level of commitment and discipline and it doens't come out sounding as natural.
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9. RE: Electronica Musicians vs. Traditional Musicians
Oct 18 2009, 8:07 PM EDT
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Both traditional musicians and electronica musicians require knowledge and skill of their instrumental tool. Traditional musicians are hands-on with their instrument, creating human error. Electronica musicians can fix their human errors making their music almost flawless every time. But on a skill level, i believe traditional musicians are far more on a higher level than those of electronica musicians because of the process of learning and mastering the instrumental tool. For example, those who are interested in playing the violin would have to learn how to create musical harmony with and practicing their strokes. An electronica musician only has to learn how to use a software which is easily explained by the manual, or other professional electronica musicians by a click of a button. Electronica musicians retrieve their sounds from a certain software, meaning they may all sound like, just with a different pattern. Traditional musicians have the ability to create unique sounds that nobody can steal or copy from. And because traditional musicians must practice in order to reduce human error, i believe their skills and dedication will have to be on a much more higher scale than those who simply create music with a click of a button.
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ivywong |
10. RE: Electronica Musicians vs. Traditional Musicians
Oct 18 2009, 9:37 PM EDT
I think traditional musicians and electronica musicians both need skill and an ear for music. They both need time to master their instruments and make the music sound good, whether it is on the computer or the actual instrument. However, I believe tradtional musicians have a little more talent because the computer does not require the musician to hold a certain posture or to use their fingers in a different manner like on the violin or piano. Electronica musicians can re listen to their music before it is played and correct anything that does not sound right, but once the traditional musicians play a wrong note, it cannot be changed. Therefore, I believe the electronica musicians have a better advantage at making their music sound better than traditional musicians, but they both have an equal amount of skill.
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KevinHenriquez |
11. RE: Electronica Musicians vs. Traditional Musicians
Oct 18 2009, 11:03 PM EDT
In my opinion, traditional musicians as well as electronica musicians require a great talent, skill, and knowledge. Both of them are hard to do. However, there is always going to be differences between the two, one is always going to be harder and better than the other one. In traditional music, skills to hold an actual instrument are needed, while in electronica music, all that's required is to know how to use a computer and know the function of each of the music tools in the software. In traditional music, every single note has to be memorized, you cannot make any mistakes because you cannot fix it if you are playing live, only if you are rehearsing, but you would have to start over. Unlike traditional music, in electronica music, if you make a mistake, you do not have to start over, you can just select the little piece where you made a mistake and fix it. electronica music is not played live, you first make the music, record it, and then play it. Traditional music can be recorded, but when you are in a concert, you have to play live and be perfect and also know when exactly you have to play each note. The skills in traditional music are better, because you rehearse and rehearse until you perfectly get it. Electronica music is way more simple and basic. In knowledge, both are knowledgeable because if you play an instrument, you know how to work it, and if you use the computer, you also have to know how to work it.
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hienvo |
12. RE: Electronica Musicians vs. Traditional Musicians
Oct 19 2009, 8:23 PM EDT
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All electronica musicians and traditional musicians have different musical talents and skill sets - no two musicians are alike. With that said, I believe traditional musicians have more musical talents and skill sets than electronica musicians. First off, musical talents. Traditional musicians have to practice at many things in order to improve their musical talents. They have to learn how to read music, hold their instruments properly, learn chords, and learn scales. It takes them many many years in order to master many techniques. Electronica musicians just sit in front of a computer, read instructions and manuals, and manipulate and create sounds with a click of a button. Secondly, skill sets. The skill level of traditional musicians are higher than those of electronica musicians. The process of learning to play an instrument is long and rigorous and mastering a instrument takes time, practice, and dedication. Tradicional musicians make many errors in which they have to work hard at to fix while all electronica musicians have to do is click a few buttons and viola! Traditional musicians have to practice hard in order for them to play a song just as it's supposed to sound whereas a electronica musician's song sounds the same everytime you play it. Traditional musicians require more skills and knowledge of music in order to produce music. Virtually anybody can create electronica music, but not everyone can play an instrument. All in all, electronica musicians and traditional musicians are unique in their own way and both have their own methods of producing music. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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13. RE: Electronica Musicians vs. Traditional Musicians
Oct 19 2009, 9:41 PM EDT
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While both types of musician must go through countless hours in class to obtain the expertise required for music composing and recording, I believe that traditional musicians are more talented and skilled compare to electronica musicians. Traditional musicians must acquire a greater knowledge of music theory and develop overtime the hand-eye coordination ability that enables them to utilize their complex instruments, while electronica musicians in a shorter amount of time only have to grasp the basic understandings of scales and notes for their virtual instruments. Traditional musicians tend to be more creative with their musical instruments by applying techniques that make their music sound unordinary. While more digitally complex, virtual instruments are limited to only a certain amounts of tune and pitch, this causes the music to become mundane. Using real instruments, traditional musicians have the ability to play live music at social places and getting themselves recognized while electronic musicians can only express themselves through recordings. Therefore, in my opinion, traditional musicians have more musical talent and skill.
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AirPower |
14. RE: Electronica Musicians vs. Traditional Musicians
Oct 19 2009, 11:31 PM EDT
Traditional music is real, with electronica, you don't really live the experience, you just hear sound through your speakers. To me, its not the talent but the sound, if you want real music, then look for traditional music rather than tones produced by your computer. Traditional musicians require a lot more talent, such as timing, tuning, rhythm, etc. Electronica is automatically fitted in these categories in a computer by th click of a mouse.
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15. RE: Electronica Musicians vs. Traditional Musicians
Oct 19 2009, 11:50 PM EDT
"The trend today is to replace many musical instruments with virtual instruments--instruments that exist only in software. This trend has resulted in a new branch of the music industry called electronica--music designed from the ground up with digital technology.I still believe that true music should be played with musical instruments. Not saying that it does not take any skill to play virtual instruments, I just believe that true talent comes from a "hands on eperience" For example, I play trumpet or used to for that matter, would a person playing a virtual trumpet have the same difficulties with playing a real trumpet?? Would that person have a right lip placement on the mouthpiece? Would they even have a mouthpiece to play on? I just feel like it is more difficult to learn a traditional instrument rather than electronic instruments. I get the feeling that learning an electronic instrument is just like Microsoft Word; learn to do it, then eventually you will be a pro at it. Not everyone can be a pro at traditional instruments because I believe it's a higher level of learning. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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16. RE: Electronica Musicians vs. Traditional Musicians
Oct 20 2009, 8:05 PM EDT
I feel that traditional musicians are far more talented and skiiled than electronica musicians. Playing a virtual instrument on the computer almost requires little to no effort at all. All you would have to do is basically push a button on the screen to make a sound. However real musicians work hard at perfecting the sound they want out of the instrument. Being a musician myself, it takes a lot of dedication and hark work to perfect the sound I want out of my violin.
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17. RE: Electronica Musicians vs. Traditional Musicians
Oct 21 2009, 2:25 AM EDT
It's a well known fact that most of today's music is digitally created and edited, and this has created a new definition for music. In the past, music was created with actual instruments and recorded live on location or not at all. Now, electronica musicians use digital technology to produce musical compositions. In my personal opinion, I believe that it takes just as much skill for a traditional musician to compose a piece as it does for an electronica musician. Being a traditional musician myself (playing the trumpet), I know the difficulties of creating a musical piece. You have to learn to play your instrument and know the tendencies of your instrument and how to adjust to them. Electronica musicians can be seen as doing the exact same thing only with a new kind of instrument, the computer. They also need to learn to play their "instruments", programs, and know how to make their programs make the way they need them to. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
